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		<title>By: AeSix</title>
		<link>http://animatedpng.com/index.php/blog/apng-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>AeSix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sven Neumann is part of the GIMP dev team, sorry for any confusion the first line of my previous comment might have caused.</description>
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		<title>By: AeSix</title>
		<link>http://animatedpng.com/index.php/blog/apng-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator>AeSix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apperantly, Sven Neumann, part of the Dev team, thinks APNG is BS. Whether he speaks for his own beliefs or for the GIMP dev community at large, There will be no APNG support for GIMP any time in the near future. He sites &#039;patched libraries&#039; as one reason for this. That&#039;s BS thinking in it&#039;s own right. Open Source software has been patched software since day 1. Unless Sven thinks that GIMP should not be used on GNU/Linux OSes, and wants to keep it solely for Windows, his entire mindset is flawed. But that&#039;s neither here nor there. He suggests that someone outside GIMP development write a plugin if we want apng support.

I for one do not know how to write plugins. I wouldn&#039;t know where to start. I do, however know how to use GIMP. But if Sven speaks for the entire GIMP Dev team, perhaps I will find another piece of software to use instead.

On Monday, June 25, 2007, Sven replied to Andrew Smith concerning this. The following is his reply and can be found at the mail archives at http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-developer/2007-June/018093.html
For your conveince, the message is below. As of January 30, 2010, There still is no Animated PNG support in GIMP, and MNG support is completely gone, abandoned. (Except maybe Konqueror) I am sure in the 2 and a half years since writing that reply, the APNG team has come up with a stable library. I can&#039;t see why the GIMP Dev team has to spend so much time and effort redesigning every new point release&#039; interface instead of spending some time to go over the library and incorperate APNG support into GIMP. I have lost a LOT of confidence in the GIMP team over the last year, and I do believe this is going to push me over the edge to find something else.

Hi,

On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 10:43 -0400, Andrew Smith wrote:

&gt; I was wondering whether there is any interest in having The Gimp support
&gt; the APNG format? And if so, whether any of the Gimp developers would be
&gt; willing to write it?

In my opinion APNG is the wrong approach and it is very unfortunate that
the Firefox developers seems to think that APNG supprt is more important
than MNG support.

But GIMP is modular and nothing keeps you or anyone else from writing a
plug-in that adds APNG support to GIMP. Since we aren&#039;t going to include
or depend on a patched version of libpng, such a plug-in would have to
be distributed separately.


Sven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apperantly, Sven Neumann, part of the Dev team, thinks APNG is BS. Whether he speaks for his own beliefs or for the GIMP dev community at large, There will be no APNG support for GIMP any time in the near future. He sites &#8216;patched libraries&#8217; as one reason for this. That&#8217;s BS thinking in it&#8217;s own right. Open Source software has been patched software since day 1. Unless Sven thinks that GIMP should not be used on GNU/Linux OSes, and wants to keep it solely for Windows, his entire mindset is flawed. But that&#8217;s neither here nor there. He suggests that someone outside GIMP development write a plugin if we want apng support.</p>
<p>I for one do not know how to write plugins. I wouldn&#8217;t know where to start. I do, however know how to use GIMP. But if Sven speaks for the entire GIMP Dev team, perhaps I will find another piece of software to use instead.</p>
<p>On Monday, June 25, 2007, Sven replied to Andrew Smith concerning this. The following is his reply and can be found at the mail archives at <a href="http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-developer/2007-June/018093.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-developer/2007-June/018093.html</a><br />
For your conveince, the message is below. As of January 30, 2010, There still is no Animated PNG support in GIMP, and MNG support is completely gone, abandoned. (Except maybe Konqueror) I am sure in the 2 and a half years since writing that reply, the APNG team has come up with a stable library. I can&#8217;t see why the GIMP Dev team has to spend so much time and effort redesigning every new point release&#8217; interface instead of spending some time to go over the library and incorperate APNG support into GIMP. I have lost a LOT of confidence in the GIMP team over the last year, and I do believe this is going to push me over the edge to find something else.</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 10:43 -0400, Andrew Smith wrote:</p>
<p>&gt; I was wondering whether there is any interest in having The Gimp support<br />
&gt; the APNG format? And if so, whether any of the Gimp developers would be<br />
&gt; willing to write it?</p>
<p>In my opinion APNG is the wrong approach and it is very unfortunate that<br />
the Firefox developers seems to think that APNG supprt is more important<br />
than MNG support.</p>
<p>But GIMP is modular and nothing keeps you or anyone else from writing a<br />
plug-in that adds APNG support to GIMP. Since we aren&#8217;t going to include<br />
or depend on a patched version of libpng, such a plug-in would have to<br />
be distributed separately.</p>
<p>Sven</p>
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		<title>By: ezel</title>
		<link>http://animatedpng.com/index.php/blog/apng-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>ezel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
Everyone probably knows this by now but some questions here touched it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Everyone probably knows this by now but some questions here touched it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kizzume</title>
		<link>http://animatedpng.com/index.php/blog/apng-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Kizzume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sincerely hope IE, Safari, and Chrome eventually implement APNG.  Then I could actually make sites like http://www.kizzume.com/testing4.html -- right now I&#039;m still having to convert this concept to gif, which hasn&#039;t been fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sincerely hope IE, Safari, and Chrome eventually implement APNG.  Then I could actually make sites like <a href="http://www.kizzume.com/testing4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kizzume.com/testing4.html</a> &#8212; right now I&#8217;m still having to convert this concept to gif, which hasn&#8217;t been fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Stepin</title>
		<link>http://animatedpng.com/index.php/blog/apng-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Stepin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VDubAPNGMod is good for lossless APNG optimizations.

APNG Anime Maker can do lossy optimizations.
 
Also that new PUNYPNG online service promises to add APNG support soon (not yet)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VDubAPNGMod is good for lossless APNG optimizations.</p>
<p>APNG Anime Maker can do lossy optimizations.</p>
<p>Also that new PUNYPNG online service promises to add APNG support soon (not yet)</p>
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